And I will remind you that I have yet to spend 12,000 years living amongst and judging your kind. That being the case, you've little to lose, and may even still manage to leave a favorable impression upon me - perhaps.
Either way, my inquiry stands. Although we may never see eye-to-eye, I believe we can agree that we both wish to see our star endure.
very well then don't blame me when you don't like the answers you get
to answer the first, i'm not aware that the will of the star needs any one entity or another to carry out its will to begin with the lot of you considered it important to be its stewards as i recall but in all of memory i don't think there's yet been a time when you and yours haven't been meddling with the fate of the star whether it be by living upon it or by seeking to rejoin it
so the answer is: i suppose we'll figure that out when it comes to pass
to answer the second, we've aetherologists who've devoted their lives to that manner of study and certainly all sorts of inquiries being made about it though i don't know that we've anything like the convocation had, any dedicated role to overseeing the aetherial sea specifically
so the answer is: i suppose we'll figure that out when it comes to pass
How astute of you. As you have already determined, I do not find either answer in the least bit acceptable.
Nor the fact that I have wasted a question on the verbal equivalent of a wide shrug of the shoulders.
One can only hope these aetherologists of yours have some inkling that the release of so much aether back into the Underworld when it has been operating with only the dregs of what remained to it is like to have longterm consequences. Not at the same level as a hypothetical Rejoining perhaps, but a palpable effect nonetheless.
oh come now you can't possibly think i'd leave it at that
i offered that question to you as a gift
letting you squander it on so paltry an inquiry is tantamount to giving a shoddy gift and i have my honor at stake so i'll not count it against you, this time
Can't I? Even when your "free question voucher" begets not one but three separate redemptions?
And my inquiry wasn't paltry in the least. Only the fact that everyone seems content to react to problems well after they have already occurred rather than take steps to prevent them in the first place.
[Pot, meet kettle. But what can be said? At least he isn't sitting on what knowledge he possesses - not that he can do anything with it, even now.]
Then let us try a different approach. (And if you haven't an answer for this one, you may as well have your gift back so we can be done with it.)
What can you tell me about the destination of our hero's next adventure?
that's a rich observation coming from one of the aforementioned problems to begin with
as best i can tell "our" hero is set for a long and well-deserved rest though i rather doubt the "long" part
a certain old friend of theirs left them a parting gift, you see an itinerary of locales all with the promise of new sights to see and discoveries to be had
now, let me see, how DID he put it "go forth and seek discovery; as the bearer of azem's crystal, you may consider your duty to see at least that much."
But, yes. That does sound remarkably similar to something this "old friend of theirs" would say.
[Identical, in fact. And unless Hythlodaeus has been sharing his personal affairs with all and sundry (possible, he thinks, though unlikely in this case), there's no way Thancred would know that unless it truly occurred.]
He has always made such proclamations whenever Azem is about to leave on another adventure, you see. Force of habit.
if it walks like a rail and it quacks like a rail then perspective doesn't make a great deal of difference, does it
anyway i daresay most of the locations in question will mean nothing to you since they're names i recognized and i expect none of them predate the sundering
but said sentimental old friend did challenge them to discover the identities of some people which rather makes me think he knew them as well
i expect you're aware of someone by the name of venat i wonder if she might've happened to have twelve Words or somesuch
Mayhap you should ask again after I've begun committing atrocities and allowing entire civilizations to crumble at my feet. I take no joy in what I know, nor in my portrayal, if for some reason you thought otherwise.
[He's hardly in the state of mind to argue over such things nor to get into the morality of it all. The future has been a bitter pill to swallow, and he yet finds himself choking on its contents these few days later.]
[Though he does pause over what Thancred says next, unsure himself of who precisely he might be alluding to. After all, the former Azem's social network is extensive to say the very least.]
Are you inquiring after Venat? Or simply trying to jog my memory?
I don't personally know of anyone who is only "aware of" her. She, like her pupil, is a veritable force of nature.
by my recollection your sentiments on her were not altogether fond
so you might say i was seeking to avoid a reaction similar to if you were to start posing me questions about lahabrea
[Which is an interesting thing to take back and consider, really. Information offered both to Emet-Selch and to Hythlodaeus, and for both of them all they could think to ask was the equivalent of the exact same thing — is my dearest friend happy? Are they well? Are they content?
It also doesn't miss his notice that Emet-Selch's "what I know" seems to have expanded in character since last they had this conversation. At the very least, he doesn't seem to be skeptical of his role in it all anymore, and that's something.]
i'm inquiring whether
[...Wait. Hythlodaeus had said something once. Seek new perspectives and you shall find new paths — Thaliak's words, but he'd said some old teacher of his had oft said a similar thing. Identically a similar thing?]
i've something i want information on but i'm trying to determine how to identify the subjects in question in a manner you'll be able to recognize
Yes. I imagine the fact that she would come to defy the Convocation and bring about the Sundering would rather complicate my impression of her.
In my time, however, she serves as an advisor - after having relinquished her role as the former Azem. I have known her since adolescence, and it was she who first introduced me to the current holder of that Seat.
As for your inquiry, however, I cannot answer if I'm provided with no details. If I could but see their souls, 'twould be a simple enough matter to identify them, but as that isn't an option, we will have to resort to distinguishing characteristics.
Who are they, then? You implied they were connected to Venat in some way, though we've each more than a dozen Words at any given time. Many who served during her tenure have already returned to the Star.
there would have to be twelve of them i can say that much
i suppose the likeliest candidate would be an academician of some renown the sort who would be well associated with wisdom and the spirit of inquiry
hythlodaeus once suggested he might've met someone fitting the bill the head of some institution or another mayhap i suppose he might've been associated with a nautilus or an ewer as well
[Thancred, you're spreaking about the ancients (or are you?). How many of them aren't associated with wisom and the spirit of inquiry? Emet-Selch instead focuses on Hythlodaeus's suggestion.]
Like as not Hythlodaeus was speaking of the head of the Akadaemia Anyder. Prior to his appointment, he was a well-known scholar and teacher of mΓ‘thΔma.
The Words are those who specialize in a particular field. Think of it as you would an academic department found in a university. The Words of Halmarut, for example, encompasses those who study plant and fungal life: scholars, researchers, academics, and so forth. Those who serve on the Convocation often look to their Words for assistance and further insight.
Though if you are trying to identify such people in relation to Venat, the first place I would consider would be Anamnesis Anyder. I have heard that when she isn't abroad, she spends a great deal of time within the archives.
I am answering your incredibly vague inquiry into these unknown persons based on my past and present experience. What you choose to do about it - or how you choose to verify my claims - is a problem for you to solve.
Who knows? Our hero traveled into the past twice before. Mayhap they can manage it again.
Elsewise, I suppose you'll need a boat. And a means to breathe underwater without either freezing to death or being crushed by the immense pressure. Or something else to do it for you.
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And I will remind you that I have yet to spend 12,000 years living amongst and judging your kind. That being the case, you've little to lose, and may even still manage to leave a favorable impression upon me - perhaps.
Either way, my inquiry stands. Although we may never see eye-to-eye, I believe we can agree that we both wish to see our star endure.
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don't blame me when you don't like the answers you get
to answer the first, i'm not aware that the will of the star needs any one entity or another to carry out its will to begin with
the lot of you considered it important to be its stewards as i recall
but in all of memory i don't think there's yet been a time when you and yours haven't been meddling with the fate of the star
whether it be by living upon it or by seeking to rejoin it
so the answer is: i suppose we'll figure that out when it comes to pass
to answer the second, we've aetherologists who've devoted their lives to that manner of study and certainly all sorts of inquiries being made about it
though i don't know that we've anything like the convocation had, any dedicated role to overseeing the aetherial sea specifically
so the answer is: i suppose we'll figure that out when it comes to pass
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Nor the fact that I have wasted a question on the verbal equivalent of a wide shrug of the shoulders.
One can only hope these aetherologists of yours have some inkling that the release of so much aether back into the Underworld when it has been operating with only the dregs of what remained to it is like to have longterm consequences. Not at the same level as a hypothetical Rejoining perhaps, but a palpable effect nonetheless.
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you can't possibly think i'd leave it at that
i offered that question to you as a gift
letting you squander it on so paltry an inquiry is tantamount to giving a shoddy gift
and i have my honor at stake
so i'll not count it against you, this time
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And my inquiry wasn't paltry in the least. Only the fact that everyone seems content to react to problems well after they have already occurred rather than take steps to prevent them in the first place.
[Pot, meet kettle. But what can be said? At least he isn't sitting on what knowledge he possesses - not that he can do anything with it, even now.]
Then let us try a different approach. (And if you haven't an answer for this one, you may as well have your gift back so we can be done with it.)
What can you tell me about the destination of our hero's next adventure?
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as best i can tell "our" hero is set for a long and well-deserved rest
though i rather doubt the "long" part
a certain old friend of theirs left them a parting gift, you see
an itinerary of locales
all with the promise of new sights to see and discoveries to be had
now, let me see, how DID he put it
"go forth and seek discovery; as the bearer of azem's crystal, you may consider your duty to see at least that much."
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But, yes. That does sound remarkably similar to something this "old friend of theirs" would say.
[Identical, in fact. And unless Hythlodaeus has been sharing his personal affairs with all and sundry (possible, he thinks, though unlikely in this case), there's no way Thancred would know that unless it truly occurred.]
He has always made such proclamations whenever Azem is about to leave on another adventure, you see. Force of habit.
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anyway i daresay most of the locations in question will mean nothing to you
since they're names i recognized and i expect none of them predate the sundering
but said sentimental old friend did challenge them to discover the identities of some people
which rather makes me think he knew them as well
i expect you're aware of someone by the name of venat
i wonder if she might've happened to have twelve Words or somesuch
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[He's hardly in the state of mind to argue over such things nor to get into the morality of it all. The future has been a bitter pill to swallow, and he yet finds himself choking on its contents these few days later.]
[Though he does pause over what Thancred says next, unsure himself of who precisely he might be alluding to. After all, the former Azem's social network is extensive to say the very least.]
Are you inquiring after Venat? Or simply trying to jog my memory?
I don't personally know of anyone who is only "aware of" her. She, like her pupil, is a veritable force of nature.
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so you might say i was seeking to avoid a reaction similar to if you were to start posing me questions about lahabrea
[Which is an interesting thing to take back and consider, really. Information offered both to Emet-Selch and to Hythlodaeus, and for both of them all they could think to ask was the equivalent of the exact same thing — is my dearest friend happy? Are they well? Are they content?
It also doesn't miss his notice that Emet-Selch's "what I know" seems to have expanded in character since last they had this conversation. At the very least, he doesn't seem to be skeptical of his role in it all anymore, and that's something.]
i'm inquiring whether
[...Wait. Hythlodaeus had said something once. Seek new perspectives and you shall find new paths — Thaliak's words, but he'd said some old teacher of his had oft said a similar thing. Identically a similar thing?]
i've something i want information on
but i'm trying to determine how to identify the subjects in question in a manner you'll be able to recognize
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In my time, however, she serves as an advisor - after having relinquished her role as the former Azem. I have known her since adolescence, and it was she who first introduced me to the current holder of that Seat.
As for your inquiry, however, I cannot answer if I'm provided with no details. If I could but see their souls, 'twould be a simple enough matter to identify them, but as that isn't an option, we will have to resort to distinguishing characteristics.
Who are they, then? You implied they were connected to Venat in some way, though we've each more than a dozen Words at any given time. Many who served during her tenure have already returned to the Star.
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i can say that much
i suppose the likeliest candidate would be an academician of some renown
the sort who would be well associated with wisdom and the spirit of inquiry
hythlodaeus once suggested he might've met someone fitting the bill
the head of some institution or another mayhap
i suppose he might've been associated with a nautilus or an ewer as well
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Like as not Hythlodaeus was speaking of the head of the Akadaemia Anyder. Prior to his appointment, he was a well-known scholar and teacher of mΓ‘thΔma.
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i'm not even certain what one might call it. words? followers? disciples? comrades?
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The Words are those who specialize in a particular field. Think of it as you would an academic department found in a university. The Words of Halmarut, for example, encompasses those who study plant and fungal life: scholars, researchers, academics, and so forth. Those who serve on the Convocation often look to their Words for assistance and further insight.
Though if you are trying to identify such people in relation to Venat, the first place I would consider would be Anamnesis Anyder. I have heard that when she isn't abroad, she spends a great deal of time within the archives.
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that i just pop over to the archives and have a look around the people who might be hanging about it after twelve thousand years and a sundering
they're presently at the bottom of an ocean by the way
and on another shard altogether
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I am answering your incredibly vague inquiry into these unknown persons based on my past and present experience. What you choose to do about it - or how you choose to verify my claims - is a problem for you to solve.
Who knows? Our hero traveled into the past twice before.
Mayhap they can manage it again.
Elsewise, I suppose you'll need a boat.
And a means to breathe underwater without either freezing to death or being crushed by the immense pressure.
Or something else to do it for you.